tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7030453069845909403.post4707600930342938279..comments2024-03-20T08:27:29.290+11:00Comments on .W.I.P. It: Automated Online Proofreaders: Are They Worth It? Lynda R Young as Elle Cardyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09975442291393246148noreply@blogger.comBlogger71125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7030453069845909403.post-77212649084618466432013-07-22T17:40:09.861+10:002013-07-22T17:40:09.861+10:00lol, Grammarly is mostly good, so no, it wouldn...lol, Grammarly is mostly good, so no, it wouldn't change your first sentence ... unless you were calling me interesting? ;)Lynda R Young as Elle Cardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09975442291393246148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7030453069845909403.post-9223318162031096832013-07-21T04:20:20.230+10:002013-07-21T04:20:20.230+10:00Very interesting, Lynda. (Would Grammarly turn thi...<b>Very interesting, Lynda.</b> (Would Grammarly turn this into 'Very interesting Lynda, ...?) I remember the first time I heard about automatic proofreaders. It must have been, what, 1990 I think it was. Pre-internet. It's all too clear that machines need much more input for them to be able to even scratch the surface of that complex thing called language. My guess is it'll take them another 50 years or so.Blue Grumpsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03106493133778319165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7030453069845909403.post-11122231900523945062013-07-16T11:22:22.328+10:002013-07-16T11:22:22.328+10:00Thanks, Anthony :)Thanks, Anthony :)Lynda R Young as Elle Cardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09975442291393246148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7030453069845909403.post-28360781783482869762013-07-16T11:21:21.691+10:002013-07-16T11:21:21.691+10:00yep, they can't yet be relied on 100%, but per...yep, they can't yet be relied on 100%, but perhaps that's a good thing.Lynda R Young as Elle Cardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09975442291393246148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7030453069845909403.post-18518077752982175512013-07-16T11:19:15.860+10:002013-07-16T11:19:15.860+10:00You've never heard of Miss Spelt? She's th...You've never heard of Miss Spelt? She's the one at the back of the classroom punching holes in her papers with her pencil... don't mess with Miss Spelt ;)Lynda R Young as Elle Cardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09975442291393246148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7030453069845909403.post-26255607757444962262013-07-16T10:24:06.699+10:002013-07-16T10:24:06.699+10:00it makes blogging awkward!it makes blogging awkward!Lynda R Young as Elle Cardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09975442291393246148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7030453069845909403.post-72297189111629290532013-07-16T06:59:46.027+10:002013-07-16T06:59:46.027+10:00Hi Lyn. I just wanted to say that I greatly enjoye...Hi Lyn. I just wanted to say that I greatly enjoyed reading your previous post on "Faith"; it was very well written.anthony stemkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15666462157746049139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7030453069845909403.post-90362893759733979922013-07-16T06:24:47.921+10:002013-07-16T06:24:47.921+10:00This is a new program! Thanks for introducing this...This is a new program! Thanks for introducing this.<br /><br />www.modernworld4.blogspot.comGina Gaohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09032273127593718883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7030453069845909403.post-62219242983514714852013-07-16T03:30:17.997+10:002013-07-16T03:30:17.997+10:00Nope, never used one. Would I? Sure. Who doesn'...Nope, never used one. Would I? Sure. Who doesn't need another set of eyes for easily skipped mistakes. Would I pay to use said service? Hm. It would have to be pretty darn awesome. Crystal Collierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03912469552483168148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7030453069845909403.post-42211782837264792162013-07-15T07:30:10.221+10:002013-07-15T07:30:10.221+10:00I think automatic checkers can help find things we...I think automatic checkers can help find things we miss, but it's not a good idea to rely on them too heavily.Patsyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12263765378083045973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7030453069845909403.post-85512445812849255122013-07-14T16:48:58.037+10:002013-07-14T16:48:58.037+10:00I'm using Autocrit now. I've used a progra...I'm using Autocrit now. I've used a program called Editor by Serenity Software. I liked Editor because it seemed easier to work with as far as working with word docs.<br />What I found odd in Autocrit and maybe it goes for all online editing programs, is that its advice is questionable. I mean basically all they're doing is advising you to change this or that. I ran an old story published a long time ago via literary magazine, and it was well edited--through Autocrit and it found all kinds of so called problems. So now I'm not sure of the validity or reliability of such programs.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16467502568345526538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7030453069845909403.post-35637161197324898922013-07-13T05:18:32.113+10:002013-07-13T05:18:32.113+10:00I'm trying to decide between Autocrit and Gram...I'm trying to decide between Autocrit and Grammarly. The only thing is Autocrit is actually cheaper for a year $117 (or $77 a year for 8000 word chunks) vs Grammarly $139 a yr. Kathleen Baldwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09568097102600913219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7030453069845909403.post-14603379786928219882013-07-12T15:31:29.340+10:002013-07-12T15:31:29.340+10:00Great review, Lynda. I'd heard of Grammarly be...Great review, Lynda. I'd heard of Grammarly before but didn't know if it was any good.<br /><br />JaiJai Joshihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04858987106548357551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7030453069845909403.post-20087442397020480172013-07-12T13:10:11.615+10:002013-07-12T13:10:11.615+10:00As I said earlier, I've been using Grammarly L...As I said earlier, I've been using Grammarly Lite for ages, which is free of charge and plenty for me. I am someone who turns off the spelling and grammar checker in Word as it is so often incorrect. I see these programmes as very good for someone for whom English is a Second Language and they are very unconfident with the English language. (It is interesting that my Grammarly lite has underlined 'Grammarly' as misspelt, 'programmes' as misspelt (which I guess is not American) and they want 'misspelt' to be 'miss spelt'. Never heard of her, lol. All in fun. Denise Covey https://www.blogger.com/profile/07106490051555233439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7030453069845909403.post-52365501227235386422013-07-12T08:55:54.777+10:002013-07-12T08:55:54.777+10:00Interesting, Lynda! I hadn't even heard of thi...Interesting, Lynda! I hadn't even heard of this until earlier this week. I'm sure there are some writers out there that this would benefit greatly, but I don't think I'd ever use a program like this. Though responding to Mark's comment above me, if it could tell me which plot thread isn't working, I'd definitely sign up! ;-) Morganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15747144518868320969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7030453069845909403.post-52895615024076358452013-07-12T03:23:04.443+10:002013-07-12T03:23:04.443+10:00Various programs are useful, but I find that nothi...Various programs are useful, but I find that nothing replaces the human element. I use a lot of varied words in my work that most edit programs flag as incorrect even though I've found them in the dictionary. Also, editing programs are helpful with grammar, but won't tell you that a major plot line in your story needs to be changed:)Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01793077012143289985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7030453069845909403.post-2160658166269421782013-07-11T18:25:29.552+10:002013-07-11T18:25:29.552+10:00I have to agree. It's not something that shoul...I have to agree. It's not something that should be relied on, but it's still good as an extra helping hand. Lynda R Young as Elle Cardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09975442291393246148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7030453069845909403.post-30068588122306899892013-07-11T18:24:03.616+10:002013-07-11T18:24:03.616+10:00There will always be a level that any automated pr...There will always be a level that any automated program won't be able to reach. There are no absolute replacements for the human factor, only tools that can help.Lynda R Young as Elle Cardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09975442291393246148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7030453069845909403.post-25954263826625639382013-07-11T18:20:59.516+10:002013-07-11T18:20:59.516+10:00well, it does pick a few more things than Word'...well, it does pick a few more things than Word's grammar check can.Lynda R Young as Elle Cardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09975442291393246148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7030453069845909403.post-47496769674818249152013-07-11T18:19:49.751+10:002013-07-11T18:19:49.751+10:00That's an interesting question. I do love the ...That's an interesting question. I do love the English language and the joy of a well formed sentence. While story comes first, and should always come first, grammar is still important to know. Lynda R Young as Elle Cardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09975442291393246148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7030453069845909403.post-31804060081447395272013-07-11T15:22:09.488+10:002013-07-11T15:22:09.488+10:00Yes, excellent review Lynda. I've trialled sev...Yes, excellent review Lynda. I've trialled several now and haven't bought any as I've never been completely happy. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7030453069845909403.post-18287122189945858462013-07-11T07:41:56.302+10:002013-07-11T07:41:56.302+10:00With my editing, Lynda, I don't trust any onli...With my editing, Lynda, I don't trust any online proofreading. I use google to check. And keep my Chicago Manual of Style handy. I also use The Elements of Style. And a Merriam Webster automated digital dictionary. <br /><br />NasNas https://www.blogger.com/profile/08341843048288374472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7030453069845909403.post-57800713509954614132013-07-11T06:06:22.531+10:002013-07-11T06:06:22.531+10:00This is an example of a technology that, if widely...This is an example of a technology that, if widely-employed, might eventually hamper rather than enhance our capacity for composing clean text. A bit like people at a cash register who can no longer make change when 'the system' goes down. <br /><br />This is my gut response.Suzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07908805179119217608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7030453069845909403.post-66830423480684501352013-07-11T00:46:54.705+10:002013-07-11T00:46:54.705+10:00I've used Autocrit in the past and found it he...I've used Autocrit in the past and found it helpful. Haven't tried Grammarly. J.L. Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05666634455836834179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7030453069845909403.post-11066420325983977282013-07-11T00:40:02.731+10:002013-07-11T00:40:02.731+10:00I'm not into online editing programs. I do use...I'm not into online editing programs. I do use MS Word's check, but mostly I rely on my own eyes and my betas!Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10680066584646789184noreply@blogger.com